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Tony/Joerg, "I've also read that Alan Kay has cla...

2009-05-01T11:49:00.000-07:00

Tony/Joerg,

"I've also read that Alan Kay has claimed that not making objects concurrent was one of his greatest mistakes, although I don't have a specific citation on that one (if someone knows please leave me a comment)."

According to Alan Kay, the key is messaging – not classes or objects. He regrets not implementing messaging in Smalltalk/Squeak as he intended. This is what he had to say about objects and messaging:

Smalltalk is not only NOT its syntax or the class
library, it is not even about classes. I'm sorry that I long ago coined the
term "objects" for this topic because it gets many people to focus on the
lesser idea.

The big idea is "messaging" -- that is what the kernal of Smalltalk/Squeak
is all about (and it's something that was never quite completed in our
Xerox PARC phase).
Read the complete email here:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-October/017019.html
Regards,
Vijay Kandy

P.S: The previous comment had some HTML formatting problems so, I deleted it.

2009-05-01T11:45:00.000-07:00

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Tony, since you brought up Rich Hickey's essay on ...

2009-03-25T19:49:00.000-07:00

Tony, since you brought up Rich Hickey's essay on state, do you have any thoughts on the effects of 2-message blocking reads and the serialization of reads and writes on same-process efficiency and protocol design?

Hopefully I'll get around to hacking with Reia sho...

2009-03-25T16:06:00.000-07:00

Hopefully I'll get around to hacking with Reia shortly. Erlang's vm is the dogs bollocks.

The more pertinent question is whether Louis Armst...

2009-03-25T10:50:00.000-07:00

The more pertinent question is whether Louis Armstrong would like it.

Since I was the one who made that Alan Kay claim i...

2009-03-25T04:27:00.000-07:00

Since I was the one who made that Alan Kay claim in the first place, I should probably follow up on that … I think it might have been somewhere inside this talk from Intel Research Berkeley's Programming Systems Seminar Series, titled Could Computing be simpler than it seems to be? (The STEPS Project towards the Reinvention of Computing). It's basically a progress report about the STEPS project by Alan Kay himself (the project is partially sponsored by Intel, IIRC).

However, I'm not sure that this video is where I heard it. I'll keep looking.

While developing with Reia i felt i don't miss OOP...

2009-03-25T03:45:00.000-07:00

While developing with Reia i felt i don't miss OOP at all.
Everything i did can be re-made with pure module syntax using Hash as data.

How about Reia - any thoughts about this language?...

2009-03-25T01:51:00.000-07:00

How about Reia - any thoughts about this language? It has mutable variables, among other things…

JA: I haven’t tried it - I don’t like mutable anything

http://www.planeterlang.org/en/planet/article/Erlang_Inside_Interviews_Joe_Armstrong/

Ooops :)